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« on: March 13, 2010, 12:50:16 AM »

http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2010/03/12/Double-Standard-Conservatives-Crime

A shining example of our government leading by example.
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2010, 05:50:03 AM »

Will this type of topic or others relating at all to politics need to be on the political section?
It is a good idea to keep separate but can you place a notice on the general discussion board of the change and if possible a quick link.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2010, 07:56:15 AM »


  Surely you aren't suprized by all this. Not in this day and age. This is politics, accross the board. This kind of crap knows no political stripe and they simply become more brazen due to our lack of response.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2010, 12:06:30 PM »

Oh, in no way am I surprised by this...but I would expect at the very least the Canadian public to show some kind of outrage toward a government who practises such blatantly obvious double standards.

If this was ANYONE else...ANYONE...they would have had much more severe consequences.
1)speeding
2)drunk driving
3)cocaine possession

How is this man not in jail when so many more innocent people are thrown in jail every year?
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2010, 02:24:27 PM »

  The fox is in charge of the hen house in this case. Would you, in the same circumstance hold YOUR colleague to a high standard knowing full well the rolls could be reversed? Not terribly likely. Any agency allowed to police itself will do what is ACCEPABLE to those around them, not that which is right.
  Hence when the Conservatives are elected in fresh and hold evidence in their hands of manipulation, nepotism, malfeasance, and skulduggery at the hands of the Liberals they don't make it common knowledge. They know the Liberals will have the opportunity to repay the favour in the future.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2010, 02:43:30 PM »

The Conservative government tore at the Liberal government for their missteps and pounced at every chance to attack them. I should expect that they would, if their values truly are in line, use the same guidelines when dealing with a member of their own.

That being said...you asked me a question. I would indeed hold my colleague to this higher standard. These people are ELECTED officials, if they cannot maintain themselves in public and in private and do so under the law then they do not deserve to have the freedoms which they have been elected to uphold, plain and simple.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2010, 04:31:36 PM »

I would indeed hold my colleague to this higher standard. These people are ELECTED officials, if they cannot maintain themselves in public and in private and do so under the law then they do not deserve to have the freedoms which they have been elected to uphold, plain and simple.

I have to agree with this 100%.  Can't really argue with it at all.  Elected officials do have a certain set of responsibilities, and this guy clearly got let off easy.  Stuff like this really doesn't make Canada look so good either.

Look at that, we can actually agree on something.

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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2010, 04:45:06 PM »

Hey there, geniuses, it weren't the Conservative government that were the judge, or the lawyers - hell, it weren't even in a federal court.  So save yer sank-tee-monius horse dung, and mebbee git yer facts strait.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 04:55:38 PM »

  Saying what you would do and actually doing it are two entirely different scenarios. Knowing the colleague you hold to that standard to-day may well be your judge tomorrow colours your task.
 Having said that I wish to go on record as being totally against the double standard BUT, until we govern our government they will do as they see fit. Remember they need but one and a half to two terms to collect their FULL pension for life. After which they don't truly give a damn what you and I think.
  Doctors police doctors, police police themselves and so on. As with the Catholic Church, one does not easily give ones self a black eye. Cover up, lie, half truths and side stepping problems will be the order of the day. Those in power know full well there will be another "gaff" in short order and this hiccup will be avoided.
  Canadians on a whole and Canadian voters specifically have a very short memory, an even shorter attention span and a tolerance for this kind of crap second to none. Don't believe me? Look back in our recent history. Trudeau and his middle finger, or his "Fuddle duddle" remark. Chretien and his Mountie tear gas attack. Or perhaps Chretien's personal attack on a voter? Need I go on? I can if you so wish. Politics not unlike our weather is a constant source of conversation and unending amusement for Canadians.

 The police are only doing as instructed as are our courts. You need not follow a paper trail nor a map to see that people other than you and I hold the reigns. The government with the bit in it's teeth will follow no one other than their own. Only the gullible or altruistic would believe otherwise.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2010, 07:10:59 PM »

 Saying what you would do and actually doing it are two entirely different scenarios. Knowing the colleague you hold to that standard to-day may well be your judge tomorrow colours your task.
 Having said that I wish to go on record as being totally against the double standard BUT, until we govern our government they will do as they see fit. Remember they need but one and a half to two terms to collect their FULL pension for life. After which they don't truly give a damn what you and I think.
  Doctors police doctors, police police themselves and so on. As with the Catholic Church, one does not easily give ones self a black eye. Cover up, lie, half truths and side stepping problems will be the order of the day. Those in power know full well there will be another "gaff" in short order and this hiccup will be avoided.
  Canadians on a whole and Canadian voters specifically have a very short memory, an even shorter attention span and a tolerance for this kind of crap second to none. Don't believe me? Look back in our recent history. Trudeau and his middle finger, or his "Fuddle duddle" remark. Chretien and his Mountie tear gas attack. Or perhaps Chretien's personal attack on a voter? Need I go on? I can if you so wish. Politics not unlike our weather is a constant source of conversation and unending amusement for Canadians.

 The police are only doing as instructed as are our courts. You need not follow a paper trail nor a map to see that people other than you and I hold the reigns. The government with the bit in it's teeth will follow no one other than their own. Only the gullible or altruistic would believe otherwise.

All you have to do is look at how someone views things, and I do look down and differently at friends who use drugs like cocaine or drive drunk...that's how I would view this colleague, except more harshly because he is a representative of the people.

Cowboy Ron, the fact that he is who he is had nothing to do with the outcome? That is absurd. And those situations should have been dealt with, if they were not that is again a double standard...it doesn't make it right.

Yes you are right we do not hold the reigns, but Canadian citizens as a whole should indeed be in true control...and these men and women are supposed to follow the example than Canadians set out for them.

And if they are going to have laws such as these in place, they need to be able to follow them or suffer the same severe consequences every day people get every day...that is not negotiable.
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